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08/19 19:20:22 Dan: lol, DDOS@websiteme.com = Daniel Director Of Sales @ WebsiteME.com
08/19 19:29:12 Scott: I'm here - just no mic.  
08/19 19:30:21 Scott: exactly
08/19 19:31:49 Scott: I want our layouts to be viewable on the homepage through a link.  but nothing more.  just as a "this is what we've done"
08/19 19:31:55 Scott: the process stays as it is
08/19 19:32:05 Scott: if people like our work - they'll go through and go through getting started
08/19 19:32:34 Chris: ty scott ;)
08/19 19:34:04 Scott: :)
08/19 19:34:16 Scott: Thaila - can you get on googletalk
08/19 19:35:46 Scott: click timestamp at the bottom
08/19 19:36:04 Scott: :)
08/19 19:36:18 Scott: Yeah - no mic ..  but ican type fairly quick
08/19 19:36:33 Scott: and this way I can't interrupt :)
08/19 19:37:10 Scott: hehe
08/19 19:37:16 Scott: alright - so here's the deal
08/19 19:37:22 Scott: I spoke to Karim today
08/19 19:37:28 Scott: and we need to come uip with $5,000
08/19 19:37:32 Scott: USd
08/19 19:37:48 Scott: they want to setup a private centre there and they've already got the seats filled.
08/19 19:37:58 Chris: whys that I thought they got payed on what they sell
08/19 19:38:01 Scott: but they have had many clients say they'd pay after work is completed - and have it fall through
08/19 19:38:25 Scott: I hired a consultant to work for me down there.
08/19 19:38:31 Chris: and we've seen many indians not know there job
08/19 19:38:33 Scott: He says he's going to speak to them and see what they can do
08/19 19:38:53 Chris: is no wonder they wouln't get paid
08/19 19:38:59 Scott: We can get people to work downt here, but it'll be a really bad call centre.    
08/19 19:39:11 Chris: of cource it will
08/19 19:39:26 Scott: But my consultant got me in touch with someone else that is willing to put out $14,000
08/19 19:39:34 Scott: which is waht the setup cost is to get your own centre downthere.
08/19 19:39:42 Scott: problem is - we need to cover the 5K difference.  which shows we're serious
08/19 19:39:51 Scott: which comes back as credit towards their sales.
08/19 19:40:00 Chris: hmmm seen that typoe of senario in 1k movies
08/19 19:40:20 Scott: They are aquired.
08/19 19:40:29 Scott: But they need goodwill.
08/19 19:40:37 Chris: yet they ned more than agreed
08/19 19:40:46 Scott: well they don't keep the  money
08/19 19:40:46 Chris: ... sounds like a drug deal gone bad
08/19 19:41:01 Scott: I can email you the transmission if you want
08/19 19:41:09 Scott: transcript
08/19 19:41:27 Chris: so what your saying is we got bupkiss
08/19 19:41:45 Scott: Well, no ..   Just saying that we'll need to come up with a few bucks.
08/19 19:42:08 Dan: <-- broke already
08/19 19:42:10 Scott: What he says makes perfect sense.
08/19 19:42:15 Chris: ditto all around
08/19 19:42:25 Scott: He ran a police and full background check on me.
08/19 19:42:25 Chris: then why didn't he say it sooner
08/19 19:42:36 Scott: I'm dealing with about 8 people down there.
08/19 19:42:46 Scott: but the one person that is acting consultant only got in touch with me today
08/19 19:43:02 Chris: dude I don't think an indian cal center is going to bring in any more than biz cards
08/19 19:43:04 Scott: call centre agreed to the terms.  But He wants to get us into a dedicated centre instead
08/19 19:43:19 Scott: These guys he's bringing in as a dedicated centre are highly trained.
08/19 19:43:36 thaila: Sure send over the transcript. My question is, at this point in time how essential is the call center. It seems the Step Process site is geared at WEME calling people. At the very least having a Voice Mail system could handle overflow.
08/19 19:43:36 Scott: meaning that the company could pull in $1500 - $4000 / day
08/19 19:43:44 Scott: which means I can pay you guys salaries
08/19 19:43:46 Chris: defigned a "highly trained" indian ?
08/19 19:44:06 Chris: *could*
08/19 19:44:07 Scott: some people in India can speak perfect english
08/19 19:44:44 Chris: speak perfect english = not much skill
08/19 19:45:08 Scott: well they are sales agents.
08/19 19:45:20 thaila: Basically if we want this center we have to find an angel investor ... as we're all out of funds.
08/19 19:45:33 Chris: so then we don't want the center
08/19 19:45:47 Scott: Believe me we do
08/19 19:45:57 Scott: unless Dan can find 12 people locally and get them all taken care of.
08/19 19:46:06 Scott: we need 2 added every week.
08/19 19:46:19 thaila: I'd suggest a government grant perhaps ... that has conditions.
08/19 19:46:20 Dan: *whistles innocently*
08/19 19:46:22 Scott: But getting a call centre with CRM etc. is just what we need.
08/19 19:46:22 thaila: I think.
08/19 19:46:47 Chris: "Thanks again for your help on this.  I'm getting a greater and greater appreciation for the good back-end work you have done and are still doing to make this a professional and quality web site.  I hope we can both benefit from it in the future. "
08/19 19:47:01 Chris: :D
08/19 19:47:56 Scott: Doesnt Steven have funds?
08/19 19:48:04 Dan: no
08/19 19:48:09 Scott: Well I'm sure I can get them down to $2,500
08/19 19:48:35 Dan: he's hitting up EI
08/19 19:48:59 thaila: I think Scott, everyone thats part of this endevour has only sweat equity left. Well lets go over the strategy, maybe we can figure this out.
08/19 19:49:15 Chris: I told you 8 months ago you'd need a bigger sales team... how many sales agents have you found in 8 mo??? we all know my math of 0x100000
08/19 19:50:24 thaila: Ok, we've built an online Registration system right?
08/19 19:50:56 thaila: So, intestested people give WEME their #'s for a call back. 
08/19 19:51:14 thaila: What if we asked Steve to man the phones, or someone with a fair bit of free time.
08/19 19:51:35 thaila: Start with 1 person, see what the demand is. Maybe pump the site up with google ads.
08/19 19:52:21 thaila: then add people as we go.
08/19 19:52:32 Scott: You guys want salaries.. We have to get a call centre in place.
08/19 19:52:36 Chris: your missing one thing thaial
08/19 19:52:45 Chris: thats asuming sales is only inbound
08/19 19:52:53 Chris: which can be done, but we need advertising elsewhere
08/19 19:53:27 Chris: call center is just one avenu of advertising, you said you had it handled, we left it to you... we see now the mistake
08/19 19:53:42 Scott: excuse me?
08/19 19:53:52 Scott: It is in no way a mistake.
08/19 19:53:59 Chris: well do we or do we not have a call center making outbound calls for the last week?
08/19 19:54:15 Chris: sory 20 days
08/19 19:54:34 Scott: We were not ready 20 days ago.
08/19 19:54:35 Chris: you said they went live on the first right?
08/19 19:54:44 Chris: but they could have been calling, getting munbers
08/19 19:54:58 Chris: here it is 20 days later, they havn't started and they demand more money
08/19 19:55:00 Scott: I wasn't ready.  nothing was ready.  
08/19 19:55:02 Chris: been down that road before
08/19 19:55:08 Scott: They are not demanding more money.
08/19 19:55:17 Scott: The call centre is fine.
08/19 19:55:20 Scott: It's not the call centre.
08/19 19:55:23 Scott: It's the consultant
08/19 19:55:38 Scott: I have two consultants in India.
08/19 19:55:39 Chris: we should have some 20-100 clients lined up by now
08/19 19:56:10 Chris: well we'll upgrade to a consultent and skilled center when our basic needs are met, right now with no income we can't afford them
08/19 19:56:35 Scott: The front end is not working.   The promo code's are not working.  half of our tools were not completed..  our site just got switched over last week.  The 1st of the  month was not possible for us to go live as we were not ready.
08/19 19:56:38 Scott: we're still not ready.
08/19 19:56:45 Chris: frontend works fine
08/19 19:57:01 Chris: order system bugs have been fixed today, but who sase the sales agents need to use that?
08/19 19:57:44 thaila: As a quick mention, as a pilot project I'd try banners on sites. Even the sites we've made so far with WEME clients.
08/19 19:58:18 Chris: why are we not ready, we've been making sites for months?
08/19 19:58:57 Chris: i worked myself sick getting everything ready for launch and it was, a little buggy, but there was no launch so what did it matter
08/19 19:59:12 Chris: just more bullshit
08/19 19:59:34 Chris: sory if i feel taken advantage of
08/19 20:00:34 Scott: Go check your emails
08/19 20:00:58 Chris: nothin yet
08/19 20:01:55 thaila: I see a few on my triden@websitme.com account, looks like Dan was trying out the setup page. Are those the ones you want me to check out Scott?
08/19 20:02:05 thaila: ah,
08/19 20:02:14 thaila: I now see one from Kiran
08/19 20:02:19 Chris: naw you can delete the NEW CX oines
08/19 20:02:56 Scott: yeah - a few test accounts
08/19 20:03:09 Dan: yeah, sorry about those, I was testing the Setup Process and forwarded the things I found off to Chris to check / fix.
08/19 20:03:09 thaila: One thing that has occured to me, though implementation is another matter. Could we use a online chat system?
08/19 20:03:11 Scott: Chris and I ran through and tested it a few dozen times
08/19 20:03:14 thaila: no worries Dan
08/19 20:03:26 Chris: dan too
08/19 20:03:35 thaila: Me as well.
08/19 20:03:45 Chris: ;) is good
08/19 20:03:48 Scott: the cx portal - once it's working will have a live chat feature in it for sales  
08/19 20:04:14 thaila: I would imagine chat would be a lot cheaper than a call center. Doesn't matter what your accent is at that point.
08/19 20:04:20 Dan: oh great... live chat for sales....
08/19 20:04:24 Scott: maybe on the main site.  but havent really had time to do anything.  been putting in 110 hour weeks the past 6 weeks
08/19 20:04:33 Dan: auto response... I'm away right now, leave a message :P
08/19 20:04:35 Chris: 8 months
08/19 20:04:56 Scott: a call centre can pull in 10 - 50 sales per day.
08/19 20:05:20 Chris: but will it, they give any guarentee?
08/19 20:05:27 Scott: they are paid to be there and are monitored for breaks, etc.  they are paid hourly and they are given incentives for sales
08/19 20:05:29 thaila: I would think everyone has been pouring everything into this. So lets figure this out. In your opinion Scott, how essential is the call center to success? 
08/19 20:05:56 Chris: it could bankrupt us
08/19 20:06:23 Scott: Yes.  they don't get paid until they sell.     The $5,000 is 25% of their first bill which comes as a credit .   We don't lose the money.   We just don't pay them for their first sales till it breaks even.  They have to spend a lot of $$ to get going. 
08/19 20:06:49 Chris: what if they never make a sale?
08/19 20:07:03 Scott: by us giving them goodwill money - which is to most americans - a lot of cash - shows them that we are not going to get them to pay setup, training, etc. and have us say no thanks and walk away
08/19 20:07:26 Scott: That is a good point Chris.  But from what I've heard.  this guy knows his stuff.
08/19 20:07:30 Chris: but if they can't make a sale we should say no thanks and walk away
08/19 20:07:37 Chris: hearsay
08/19 20:07:54 Scott: after that point - they are pure commission.   the call centre gets commission - but the call centre pays their salary
08/19 20:07:58 Scott: they are willing to take the risk
08/19 20:08:05 Scott: which is a huge thing.   they accepted my offer..    
08/19 20:08:11 Chris: how long do they stay active from that 5k
08/19 20:08:11 Scott: they did not ask me for goodwill
08/19 20:08:41 thaila: Ok, at this point what losses are we facing if the $5k is not acquired? 
08/19 20:08:43 Scott: my consultant says that we should NOT go to them - but get our own dedicated - and to do that it'll run about 20K.  which they will drop in 15K  we drop in 5K.
08/19 20:09:31 Scott: basically - by doing this - we create jobs.   first off - it's a good thing.   second - is that they get paid by the call centre.   that $5000 that we give them counts as commission pay.  so if they get paid $50 a sale from us.  that's a credit for us of
08/19 20:09:36 Scott: 100 sites
08/19 20:10:07 Chris: and if it takes them 20 years to sell 100 sitres?
08/19 20:10:20 Scott: and Robin is going to talk to him - and show him that I'm a business man that means business.  I'm going to ask for 25% of ETR for 1 SPD/agent for 1 week
08/19 20:10:37 Scott: the call centre has to pay the agents..  they would not do this if they did not think my plan would work
08/19 20:10:38 thaila: The catch 22 is, we are trying to get money ... but first we need money to get money. I unfortunately don't have any contacts with disposable income.
08/19 20:10:45 Scott: call centre agents are NOT commission
08/19 20:10:51 thaila: Any ideas of were to find 5K
08/19 20:10:53 thaila: ?
08/19 20:11:04 Scott: now - I am negotiating that down to $ USD
08/19 20:11:08 Scott: 2500 USD
08/19 20:11:11 Scott: slow keyboard.
08/19 20:11:11 Chris: i told you 4 months ago i've taped all my resources
08/19 20:11:15 Chris: i'm rolling butts here
08/19 20:11:44 Scott: So lets see if we can get 3 grand here.    Is there anyone you know that can put in maybe a grand?
08/19 20:11:52 Scott: if you offer them a 3 to 1 return
08/19 20:12:07 thaila: likewise, plus I have dependants. So a constant strain there. But I think we are all in the same boat ... or we wouldn't be here right now trying to make WEME work.
08/19 20:12:07 Scott: no guarantee...   but theres a good chance..   I bet 85% on it.  
08/19 20:12:24 Chris: with 3g i'd go to kingston, get 20boxes of smokes and turn it into 20K
08/19 20:13:06 Chris: no longer watch my freinds get ripped of at 80 a carton instead of 10
08/19 20:13:14 thaila: ... thats until Indian cigs are taxed and no longer as cheap.
08/19 20:13:32 thaila: which is happening soon I hear. 
08/19 20:13:32 Scott: ok.  so here's what I'm thinking.
08/19 20:13:32 Chris: there actualy up to 20 now, but still a lot less than 80
08/19 20:13:42 Scott: We don't have funds.
08/19 20:14:03 Scott: I can cover it, but I don't want to ...    I want us to pool on this and not have me invest.  cause I dont think we need money to make $5,000
08/19 20:14:21 Scott: Dan - how many sites do we need to sell to make $5,000 ?
08/19 20:14:23 Scott: USD 
08/19 20:14:57 Chris: at what price
08/19 20:15:11 Dan: based on the 350 setup? or the 699?
08/19 20:15:15 Scott: 350
08/19 20:15:21 Chris: about 15
08/19 20:15:42 Dan: that's w/o any sales agent commission taken out of it.
08/19 20:16:02 Chris: yup
08/19 20:16:08 thaila: hmmm, I mean I can ask friends. But I'm not sure if anyone in my social network would go for $350
08/19 20:16:11 Dan: w/ the commission taken out, its 20 sites
08/19 20:16:16 Scott: ok
08/19 20:16:26 Dan: that'll give 5k exactly
08/19 20:16:32 Scott: USD or CAD?
08/19 20:16:34 Scott: we need 5K USD
08/19 20:16:35 Chris: yeah all the people I asked backed out when it was 100
08/19 20:16:58 Dan: well... what are we charging, purely US or CDN?
08/19 20:17:09 Scott: we charge the currency that they come into from.
08/19 20:17:19 Scott: but USD
08/19 20:17:23 Scott: on the site USD
08/19 20:17:56 Dan: the calculation was based on all sites being sold in USD
08/19 20:18:03 Scott: ok so lets say 20 sites
08/19 20:18:07 Scott: that should cover it eh
08/19 20:18:51 Scott: Steven ... where are youuuuuuu
08/19 20:19:09 Dan: if it is CAD, then it's 22 sites to make the USD$5k
08/19 20:19:13 Chris: lol well I think steve basicly got your message
08/19 20:19:27 Dan: I think... lol
08/19 20:19:33 Scott: lol I'm lost ...
08/19 20:19:39 Dan: based on the current exchange rate
08/19 20:19:47 Scott: ok - so 22 sites.   
08/19 20:19:56 Dan: say 25 to be safe :P
08/19 20:20:07 Scott: 22 sites less $100 cad is $2200 lost .    Which I'll cover.
08/19 20:20:14 Scott: I'll pay the commissions
08/19 20:21:03 Scott: Dan - there's two questions I want to ask you.  
08/19 20:21:28 thaila: Like I have offered, I can put up banners on my sites. They get decent traffic. I mean it can only help right? I sent an email with some stats.
08/19 20:21:53 Scott: The first is - using your friends / family / strangers / steam friends.   how long would it take you to convince people to become WEME sales agents?  
08/19 20:22:05 Dan: lol
08/19 20:22:10 Scott: can someone get Steven in here..   
08/19 20:22:25 Chris: i don't even think he has an account
08/19 20:22:29 Dan: does he have an account?
08/19 20:22:43 thaila: Vent? I beleive he has it.
08/19 20:22:59 Scott: If we hit gaming communities - and make quick friends..  get them to hear what you do - and entice them - you can build a massive sales force in no time at all.    Most of which may quit after a week. But hoping we can nail 25 sites.
08/19 20:23:11 Chris: k let him know it's steve and password
08/19 20:23:23 Dan: ok calling now
08/19 20:23:32 Chris: like I said, everyone I aproached backed away at $100
08/19 20:24:59 Scott: yeah - but that's ok.
08/19 20:25:01 Dan: hmm call went straight to voicemail... I left a message and told him the info and for him to get in ASAP
08/19 20:25:49 Scott: everybody likes to spend money.   but not everyone has it.   IF you want something enough - you'll find the money to get it.     You can have two sales agents approach one customer.   pending on what is said - they might buy from one - but not the other.
08/19 20:26:16 Chris: yeah scott..... thats a sales mentality
08/19 20:26:31 Scott: :p
08/19 20:27:07 Scott: I raised the price - so we're not the byway of website design.  $699 is a good price - and with a promo to $349 - we'll get a lot of hits.
08/19 20:27:27 Scott: What we need to do is get the word out
08/19 20:27:32 Chris: yeah I know your theory behind that... hope it works
08/19 20:27:35 Scott: we'll do that by making a very large sales force.
08/19 20:27:43 Chris: I alwayse liked the dollor store for it's method
08/19 20:28:11 Scott: So what I want is for everyone of us to get out and play games online.
08/19 20:28:15 Scott: crazy ...
08/19 20:28:30 Dan: don't have time for online games :S
08/19 20:28:46 thaila: gah, don't remember those
08/19 20:28:49 Chris: me niether, but I've already made websiteme guilds for all my fav games
08/19 20:28:53 Scott: but we should just get to know one person in game.. add them to steam - talk to them - ask them what they do - and tell them that you do sales for websiteme.  and to email jobs@websiteme.com as ythey are hiring
08/19 20:29:05 Scott: used to do that in games all the time
08/19 20:29:11 Scott: it was amazing what I'd pull out..  the skills etc.
08/19 20:29:19 Scott: Justin came from Natural Selection
08/19 20:29:24 Scott: that's how we met.
08/19 20:29:39 Scott: Just have a conversation - and we became friends
08/19 20:29:55 Dan: aww isn't that sweet... :P
08/19 20:29:55 Scott: and now he's going to be set for a career cause of that game.
08/19 20:29:57 Scott: :)(
08/19 20:29:59 Scott: we love each other
08/19 20:30:01 Scott: hehe
08/19 20:30:04 Chris: yeah even in social games I'm a lone wolf
08/19 20:30:11 thaila: I miss gaming.
08/19 20:30:34 thaila: but ya, if you can use productively ... thats smart.
08/19 20:31:17 Scott: IF we can do that - and just direct people to jobs@websiteme.com - Dan can work hard and get them setup to go
08/19 20:31:28 Scott: we nail 25 sites.  And we've got our call centre
08/19 20:31:35 Dan: so you're saying I'm not working hard now?
08/19 20:31:47 Dan: :P
08/19 20:31:50 Scott: :p oh shut up..  haha
08/19 20:31:53 Scott: yes you are
08/19 20:31:56 Scott: i think .. :P
08/19 20:32:18 Scott: Now I know that Steven would be good at that
08/19 20:32:35 Dan: I called and left a msg, not much more I Can do.
08/19 20:32:51 Chris: dude everyone is working hard, but with a combined effor were only able to put in some 200 hrs work
08/19 20:34:42 Chris: most of wich is spent going around in dead end circles
08/19 20:35:47 thaila: Ok. At this point then we're 25 sales away from a call center. Its basically setting us a roadmap.
08/19 20:36:04 Scott: Yeah.
08/19 20:36:22 thaila: But the question is, how long to get that 25 sales?
08/19 20:36:50 Scott: Thaila - how many hours to you put in outside of meetings into websiteme a week?
08/19 20:39:57 Scott: my connection die?
08/19 20:40:00 Scott: nope
08/19 20:40:00 thaila: on average 5,  IE QAing. Talking, about what I do and try and find prospects within my social network the rest of the time, so I'm not sure of the total.
08/19 20:40:11 Scott: ok
08/19 20:40:12 Scott: 5
08/19 20:40:57 Scott: Chris - how many hours do you put in?
08/19 20:41:17 Scott: I'm not questioning - I'm just going to run time management for this.
08/19 20:41:25 Scott: I wanna know what i have to work with
08/19 20:41:39 Chris: usualy about 15-20
08/19 20:41:42 Scott: ok
08/19 20:41:44 Scott: Dan ?
08/19 20:41:45 Chris: weekends too
08/19 20:42:04 Dan: hours per week on WME?
08/19 20:42:13 Scott: yes - except during meetings
08/19 20:42:14 Chris: oh, per week? 150 or so
08/19 20:42:44 Chris: 15-20 is per day
08/19 20:42:57 Scott: there's only 168 hours in a week. :p
08/19 20:43:02 Chris: :p
08/19 20:43:09 Chris: yeah and I'm a fast worker :p
08/19 20:43:17 Scott: hehe
08/19 20:43:26 Chris: but yeah, 15*7 to 20*7
08/19 20:43:40 Scott: ok cool
08/19 20:43:52 Dan: umm, this week not so much due to other committments, but generally umm... about 5-6 hours per day... depending on how well things flow for me.
08/19 20:44:06 Dan: and weekends can be hit and miss at times.
08/19 20:44:21 Chris: ddamn must be nice to have a life
08/19 20:44:42 Scott: now you know that Chris and I and Dan have no income.  Because I'm in the list - you know I'm doing all I can to make this no longer an issue.    
08/19 20:44:58 Scott: So let me make a short term diversion for us
08/19 20:45:08 Scott: give me your input
08/19 20:45:11 Dan: lol, I wish it was a life... there's a bunch of stuff that isn't really wme related that I do, but it ends up getting used eventually.
08/19 20:45:13 Scott: in 16 mins we're outta here
08/19 20:46:40 Scott: processing ... one moment.
08/19 20:46:50 Dan: prior to handing off the sales portal it was I dunno 8+ hours most days... now learning more sales shit, and learning css things have been slower for me.
08/19 20:46:53 Scott: Chris - play any MMORPG's ?  
08/19 20:47:09 Chris: nope
08/19 20:47:14 Scott: or any online games?
08/19 20:47:23 Chris: I havn't pplayed anything for about 1 month now
08/19 20:47:46 Chris: I had just picked up vega strike before launch quickly aproached
08/19 20:47:51 Scott: yeah ...
08/19 20:47:53 Scott: alright
08/19 20:48:00 Chris: but is a one person slow playing space game
08/19 20:48:36 Chris: but I got my people advertizing, i'm quite supprized the bat phone has not been off the hook
08/19 20:49:22 Scott: sorry guys .. just trying to plan this out ..
08/19 20:49:22 Dan: nope, nothing much coming in here lately
08/19 20:50:14 Chris: down to 8 min
08/19 20:50:19 Scott: 10 mins.
08/19 20:50:31 Scott: almost done ...
08/19 20:50:37 Chris: server time sais:
08/19 20:50:46 thaila: lets keep the ball rolling boys.
08/19 20:51:03 Scott: ok Dan - I want you to get a sales force together.
08/19 20:51:09 Scott: thats your priority.
08/19 20:51:19 Chris: lol told you to take charge :p
08/19 20:51:37 Chris: (dan)
08/19 20:52:13 Dan: well I am new to this whole hiring / firing thing... unlike others, I was placed in a position I knew nothing about.
08/19 20:52:43 Scott: Thaila - I want you to spend 5 hours and test the entire system.  And I want you to write out the entire process with screen shots of how things work - make a manual over the next 2 weeks.  10 hours.   should be plenty of time.
08/19 20:53:05 Chris: cause your so good at filling wholes dan :p
08/19 20:53:15 Scott: Chris - Fix the current bugs with the system.. promo code etc.   And spend the next 5 days till dev meeting learning stylesheets. and going through the system.
08/19 20:53:26 Scott: Dan can help you with that.  He knows the new system inside and out pretty much.
08/19 20:53:28 Chris: promo code is fixed
08/19 20:53:33 Scott: cool thanks
08/19 20:53:50 Dan: bend over, and I'll fill your hole with something... :P not of my person of course...
08/19 20:53:56 Chris: lol
08/19 20:54:22 Scott: So here's my expectations..    I am setting them for everyones benefit.  
08/19 20:54:23 Chris: i got a big hole to fill you tiny basterd :p
08/19 20:54:29 Dan: lol
08/19 20:54:37 Scott: guys
08/19 20:55:30 Chris: where?
08/19 20:55:33 Scott: Chris - next Monday - you'll know exactly how to rip PSD's and feed them into the system via stylesheets and div tags.   so you can create templates via psd files.
08/19 20:55:56 Scott: Dan - your going to get 20 sales guys ready to roll for next Wed.
08/19 20:55:58 Chris: so sias the fortun cookie
08/19 20:56:10 Scott: Thaila - your going to create that manual / walkthrough
08/19 20:56:36 Scott: And that should be that.
08/19 20:56:40 thaila: Sounds like a plan, and Scott, your going to marry a rich lady and get $5K :)?
08/19 20:56:43 Dan: lol... yeah, right...
08/19 20:56:44 Scott: :p
08/19 20:57:24 Scott: It's not too hard Dan .. it'll take a lot of time - but you can do it.
08/19 20:57:42 Scott: as I say - hit up steam friends.. lots and lots of kids looking for work
08/19 20:57:46 Scott: easy money for them
08/19 20:57:47 Dan: I am not a very social person as far as gaming and all that goes...
08/19 20:58:07 Dan: I go to game, when I have time, and not to really socialize.
08/19 20:58:09 Scott: Thaila - any advice for him?  your a social guru.
08/19 20:58:31 thaila: well actually Dan, in WOW your healing was very important
08/19 20:58:32 Chris: night guys
08/19 20:58:33 Scott: I just talk about everyday stuff - and then throw in - so what do you do anyways?
08/19 20:58:37 Scott: ok Chris - night
08/19 20:58:40 'Chris' has left the chat.
08/19 20:58:42 thaila: Also Steve is a good resource (with TTF2)
08/19 20:58:43 'Chris' has left the chat.
08/19 20:58:50 Scott: yeah - but he's not around
08/19 20:59:15 thaila: well not right now, but he would be someone to look into
08/19 20:59:23 Dan: yeah... true.
08/19 20:59:36 Scott: Dan - get Steve to help you if you want
08/19 21:00:01 Scott: Thaila - get used to powerpoint ;)    gonna get you to make some decks later.
08/19 21:00:20 thaila: With my manual, do you want me to suggest alternate ways of laying out things?
08/19 21:00:23 thaila: or doing things?
08/19 21:00:26 Dan: that's my main issue, I don't have an overly large network of people I regularly communicate with... it's more people that I touch base with every so often at most.
08/19 21:00:39 thaila: or just report what is seen, (ie bugs, spelling errors?)
08/19 21:00:41 Scott: just get into games - and talk to people
08/19 21:00:56 Scott: thats all it takes
08/19 21:01:00 Dan: no online games interest me, and I don't have the money for it.
08/19 21:01:24 thaila: ironically Dan, thats more my area of expertise ... when I get more freetime, I'd help
08/19 21:01:32 thaila: parties are another good way.
08/19 21:01:43 thaila: talk about what you do, with your accent ppl listen
08/19 21:01:52 Dan: lol, parties... I haven't been to a good party in years
08/19 21:02:06 Scott: hey !
08/19 21:02:08 thaila: well once the house is finished there will be a housewarming
08/19 21:02:09 Scott: you came to a couple
08/19 21:02:13 thaila: so get your suits ready
08/19 21:02:19 Dan: yeah, they were parties... not good parties
08/19 21:02:25 Scott: yeah aight
08/19 21:02:51 Scott: ok boys - get it done.    I'm gonna stall these guys.. and see what I can swing
08/19 21:02:52 thaila: ok, boys. I'm off too. 
08/19 21:03:06 thaila: sounds good. Have a gnite.
08/19 21:03:17 Dan: g'night
08/19 21:03:22 Dan: time to make foods...